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Thermostat housing bolts broke- What now?

Started by rrednek, Sunday, Nov 29, 2009, 02:56 PM

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rrednek

OK, due to my overheat/overflow problem I decided to replace the thermostat.  Got parts.  Removed hose, and began removing bolts in housing.  Broke one off at the head.  Oh well, may as well try the other.  Broke that one too!  They appear to made of aluminum.  Is that right?  Should I try to drill them out and re-tap the threads?  Do I have any other choices?  Any help/experience with will be appreciated

Jeff
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jamies85sj410

Try a little bit of heat on the bolt & a new pair of visegrips
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rrednek

OK, thanks.  I have not taken the housing off yet, so the bolts are broken off about 1/8 inch below the top of the housing.  I thought about spraying some solvent in the holes and after a while trying to remove the housing by prying with a knife or flat screwdriver at the gasket. Any other ideas?

Thanks

Jeff
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ScotY

If the bolt heads are broken clean off, shouldn't you be able to pull the cover right off the intake manifold?  The bolts should be steel, not aluminum.???  Hopefully, there's enough left to grab with visegrips.  If the bolts broke that easily, heat would probably be a good idea.  Good luck...sounds like a pain in the butt for what should have been an easy job.

rrednek

The bolt heads are broken clean off, so  I would think the cover would come right off if the threads are in the manifold and the top half of the bolts do not have threads.  I have pulled on the cover a little, but now am a little gun shy about pulling too hard.  I sprayed it down with WD-40 and will try again. 

If anyone else has some input I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

Jeff
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jamies85sj410

The housing should come off  .. The bolts corrode that's probily y they broke .. Heat the bolt or oil them . Take your time work them back & forth they should come out if not your going to have to drill & retap the holes  :-\\\\
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ScotY

Yeah, it should come right off.  Probably the gasket is stuck, maybe whoever put it on used some sealer or something.  Wiggle gently, maybe stick a skinny screwdriver in where the gasket is to get it started.

rrednek

OK, guys. Thanks.  I wil try that.

Jeff
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rrednek

Success!   Insert flat screwdriver at gasket, tap, wiggle, tap, wiggle,    repeat and the housing cover came off.  I am not soaking the bolts with WD 40 for a while to try to remove them.

Thanks to everyone.

Wonder where I can get some new bolts.

Jeff
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rrednek

Broken bolts out too!   WD-40 to loosen, New-ish vice grips, work back and forth and with patience they both came out. 

Thanks again to all.  I was really worried about this earlier this afternoon.  You guys gave me the confidence to complete the job.  Just need 2 new bolts now.

Thanks

Jeff
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Bluezuki87

that happened to me too, except mine broke inside the manifold. i had to heat and easy out ine to get them out. picked up some bolts at the local hardware store.
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Rebel Zuk

Future reference.....get yourself some PB Blaster penetrating oil...Works ALOT better than WD40.
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skyhiranger

Also, if the bolt breaks off below the surface, you can take a nut, place it over the bolt and use a wire welder to weld the nut to the broken off bolt (just don't get it too hot, or you could melt the aluminum....and that would be really bad).  The heat from the welding usually breaks the corrosion and you can easily turn the broken off bolt out via the new welded on nut.  I have removed several broken bolts by welding a nut onto them.
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jamies85sj410

Cool I'm glad that worked for u !!!
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Freebird01


Future reference.....get yourself some PB Blaster penetrating oil...Works ALOT better than WD40.


absolutly...or kroil if you can find it...

the local farm supply has another type of stuff ive been meaning to try from CRC but i forget the name...i dont get out there much.

i typicall use PB blaster. works good for starting fires too lol
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rrednek

Thanks to everybody!   Got the new thermostat installed and no more overheating.  Also, I do use PB blaster, but used up the can on a old trailer rebuild recently.  Had wd40 on hand.

Jeff
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Merlin93

This is one of those places where a steel bolt in an aluminum manifold, surrounded by water leads to galvanic corrosion. Seems to me that this is an ideal place for  stainless steel  bolts, if you don't want to have to mess with it next time. This is not a high-strength application, so ordinary stainless steel should be adequate.  (It's what I did.) 

sammy77

i was gonna suggest the "weld a nut to the bolt idea" which works very well but has already been suggested. i dont use wd40 or pb blaster. i only use jb80 (justice brothers-WORK TWICE AS GOOD AS WD-40) with my buddy being the eastern tn distributor he'd kill me if i didnt  lol  great stuff though
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