non suzuki swap

[Spulen81]

Ever see a VW Taro?  I want the grill bad but they are pricey new with shipping and everything.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-TARO-2-4-DIESEL-PICK-UP-EUROPEAN-TOYOTA-HILUX_W0QQitemZ140125086143QQihZ004QQcategoryZ108851QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[zooky]

took the truck out for a good shake down run, put about 15 miles on it. Could only get up to 65 mph due to traffic conditions. I was able to get up to that speed and maintain it easy so I am sure I will be able to easily cruse on the highway at 70-75 like I hoped. The transmission still likes to downshift more then I think it should. The engine vibration at idle in gear is pretty bad, I think the toyota (passenger side) motor mount is the cause, I'll have to replace it, its to rigid. On a long hill I was @ 9psi and the EGT shot up to 1100*f. Does that mean I need more boost?

[AcmeAdapters]

Probably do not want more than 1200 degrees and 9psi is good. It may be possible to bump it up a bit and the egt will tell if it is ok or not. In some cases a bit more fuel can cool it dowm some.  Turn it up and if the egt gets hotter then I would back it off.

[zooky]

I had Giles set the IP up for 16psi of boost, I havent played with the boost or fueling yet so I am expecting some improvement there. It was also a hot day, almost 100.  I hope to play around with it this weekend. The truck feels like it did with the 22r.
I also need to get the tach working, I have the Dakota Digital converter and it is indicating that I dont have a signal. My 'W' terminal is putting out 9VAC that is steady with RPM changes, not sure about the frequency, is that what I am looking for?

[redidbull]

I had Giles set the IP up for 16psi of boost, I havent played with the boost or fueling yet so I am expecting some improvement there. It was also a hot day, almost 100.  I hope to play around with it this weekend. The truck feels like it did with the 22r.
I also need to get the tach working, I have the Dakota Digital converter and it is indicating that I dont have a signal. My 'W' terminal is putting out 9VAC that is steady with RPM changes, not sure about the frequency, is that what I am looking for?

Probably do not want more than 1200 degrees and 9psi is good. It may be possible to bump it up a bit and the egt will tell if it is ok or not. In some cases a bit more fuel can cool it dowm some.  Turn it up and if the egt gets hotter then I would back it off.

as i am reading this post i thought i was going to have to use a translator. talk about a foreign language.   glad you are making progress randy. jim

[zooky]

 
thanks Jim, I am trying to get the bugs worked out but its getting there. Once its running right I have all the other quirks of a 21 year old truck to work out, there were squeeks and rattles everywhere

[zooky]

finally got it back from getting the exhaust finished. It sounds good. I played with the fuel and boost a little. It actually drives pretty good, the power is better then I hoped for. I got pulled over for an expired inspection sticker. Oops, my fault.  I guess it will stay in the garage until I get it done. I am really considering a 5-speed swap and plan to rebuild the suspension.

[vwdieseljunkie]

Been following along silently for a while.  Jeff Kerr gave your thread as an info link after emailing him with general questions.

LOOKS GOOD!  Very impressed with how clean you have kept everything in the engine bay.  Having been cut trained with crewchief duties, I understand the ocd (aka AR) mindset in the deal.  Very impressed.  How's the progress with tuning in the OD kick-down?  It's a basic detent-cable setup running off the throttle lever?  Have you tried maybe a small turnbuckle inline with the cable for fine tuning?  Do you still have access to the AGE shop for stainless goodies?!? lol.

Hopefully, here soon I will be able to use your progression as a functional guideline on my project.  I want to go the 4x4 route based on a solid axle toyota frame-down.  Your progress is the best auto tranny info I have been able to find so far.  My wife wants it to be an auto so she can drive too.   Since it won't be a dd, it can be built with more of an off-road attitude and I can trade certain streetability for simple function. 

I won't be going the turbo route, though, as I'll be using my existing 86 jetta coupe (1.6 n/a) as the powerplant.  It will be a slow turd, i'm sure, but I'm more interested in the low end torque.  Think of it as a large, diesel-powered four-wheeler, or an alternative to the overpriced mule-type atv's.

[zooky]

Thanks, its been a fun project. I just finished some repairs on my daughters car and will be pulling the truck back in the garage today to continue with it. I eliminated some of the vibration by bumping up the idle. I am going to change the toyota motor mount to a hydraulic VW one and hope that smooths it out. I have played with the kick-down cable some more and can move the shift points around, yes its a basic detent cable on the throttle lever. I thought about a bell-crank but that would just complicate a simple function. I am sure the sweet spot is there somewhere. If you are not going with an OD transmission I dont think it will be a big deal, what I am afraid of is being on the highway @ 75 MPH and it kicking down out of the .688 OD into the 1:1 3rd gear, the engine will not like that. I am now really considering the 5-speed swap. I think the auto performs fine and the shift points can be tuned in but I think I can get more out of the 5-speed. I wanted a 4x4 also but the 2wd was alot lighter. If mine wasnt going to be a DD I would have gone the same way you are going.
No more access to SS, that would have been nice...

[vwdieseljunkie]

My hardest question has already been answered with your success, and that was how to control the auto tranny without manifold vaccuum.  Now that I know Toyota made an auto tranny that was input shaft speed controlled with manual detent, most of my fears for functionality have been quelled.  You said the adapter and factory toyota starter is doing well, meshed as it should and all.  That's a big relief. 

I just need now to search through the 4x4 auto trannies to see which will best suit my needs.  If I can find a suitable 3spd+od similar to yours, then it will give me the potential of it being streetable, though it will never be intended as a DD.  We ride the parades around here with the local offroad groups, and it's a blast.  Having something we can hit the highway for 10/15 miles without fear of being run over will be nice.  We can backroad everything else.  The auto tranny will be a big benefit there, too, so that we aren't destroying the clutch/t.o. bearing during parades (5mph tops, lots of stop and go a few feet at a time).   

The 1.6n/a motor I have will seem slow compared to yours, but should suit all my needs with excess.  Looking over the years at the suzuki swaps, I've come to expect no more than 55mph tops, and that's fine.  I'll play with gearing and tire sizes until I like the overall outcome.

There won't be any truck left even before I start the project.  I will only be using the frame-down rolling gear.  All of the carriage will be fabbed from scratch, or be pieced together to resemble something to the effect of a flat fender willys-ish monstrosity.  There's no telling for sure at this point.  It will be moving around under it's own power before i even consider how the body will be built.  I forsee a 5-gallon bucket seat and a steering column as the amenities as I drive it around the yard for a while, lol.!

Now to find a toy truck or 4runner to start the basis of the chassis and once that's done, I'll be ordering the trans adapter.  Get the motor and trans mated, then get them hung in the frame and source driveshafts, and the hard part (for my part) will be done.  I'm going to try to stay solid axle, for  pure simplicity and geometry.  It will be a weekend toy, not a rock crawler, so the leaves will suit me just fine. 

Seeing your success in the whole project has really bolstered my confidence that this is going to be a good project for me and wifey.  She'll be turning wrenches too!

[zooky]

the only non-computer controlled toyota 4-speeds are 2wd, all the 4wd's are computer controlled. I built an adapter to mount a toyota (gear griven, for another project) T-case to a Volvo auto transmission. The Volvo and Toyota 2wd 4-speeds are basically the same(different bellhousings but interchangable) so I am sure I could use the adapter on the toyota transmission.
 You could also just use a divorced T-case if all-else fails. That should be a fun project, I like builds that are different.

[vwdieseljunkie]

You could also just use a divorced T-case if all-else fails.

I am definately still looking for a suitable dtc, for another project.  Well, for the rebuilding of a past project.  I powered an 88 comanche pickup with the mercedes 3l I-5 td.  I won't part the motor and tranny, as the tranny is nearly bullet proof, and the true precursor to the tiptronic.  If I can get a good dtc for that, then I'll put that project back into action.  It was my dd when Katrina hit, and was completely submerged in mucky salt water.  THe motor and trans was salvaged and still running, but the comanche went to pot.  Imagine all the small steel retainer clips and springs and electrical parts that were NEVER meant to come into contact with salt water.  It fell apart from the inside out

[vwdieseljunkie]

Zooky, shoot me an email sometime, I got some volvo related questions, and don't want to hijack your thread anymore than I already have, lol.

[zooky]

its a little dead on this forum lately so I thought I would bring this back up. Now that the holidays are over with I should have a little more time to mess around with this. My poor sami has been sitting under a tarp for months and looks like it will be spending the winter out there.
The toyota is in the garage, I was going to pull the bed off and make up a flat bed for it. The bed looked prety rough, typical for a toyota up here. Looks like at some point somebody smeared on some bondo on it to patch up some rust. It was never sanded out for an attempt to make it look nice, just painted over with a brush. It looked horrible! I decided to sand down the mess to see what was under the bondo and was suprised to find most of the glob was over good metal (still painted even). There was still rust, but nowhere near what you would think by looking at the mess. I decided to try to save the bed for now. I am not a body guy but I think I can get it at least presentable and get another year or two out of it. I've been picking away at it for the last month or so. The cab and frame are fine.
 I have pretty much decided to swap in a 5-speed, nothing personal against the auto. I just want to maximize power, economy and reliability. I picked up a '91 W56 off Craigslist and got a pedal assembly from the bone yard. I dont see there being any problems except maybe some clearance issues between the clutch fork and the exhaust. I have decided to stick with the stock wheel size but may convert it to a 1 ton suspension, no lift but heavy-duty. I'll post some pics once I get going...

[Flash319]

I have been watching this thread for a while.  I am in the early stages of 1.9 TD into Toyota 4X4 ext cab.  I have read and re-read this and Rockclods build on Pirate and am very impressed with both.  I am building the adapter right now for the trans (5speed). 

How is the vibration now?  I am going to use the stock mounts if possible.  Why can't the drivers side stock mount be used? Alternator or steering in the way?

Anyway nice work.  I may be asking for advice in the next year  .

PS I will be doing the writeup on YotaTech once I really start going at it.