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« on: Tuesday, May 10, 2005, 03:10:20 AM »

Well after all the suggestions on the various threads about removing the windshield frame and door hinge screws i found a method that worked flawlessly. (i failed with the cold chisel thumping,propane torch scorching and i was warned not to use the hand impact with hammer). So i borrowed a 100 psi air compressor from a buddy of mine and bought a $29 1/2 inch drive air impact wrench from Harbor Frieght (the cheapo wrench actually worked perfectly) and i went to sears and bought a 3/8 to 1/2 adapter and a 3/8 drive #3 phillips bit (they dont have 1/2 inch drive phillips anymore). Well after three failed attempts at loosening 18 various body screws the cheapo air impact got every one!!!!!! It took me longer to wait for the compressor to pressure up than to pull the screws.. So i suspect that any air impact of sufficent torque will get these buggers out EASILY 
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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday, May 10, 2005, 03:13:49 AM »

Cool glad something worked for you.

I had a phobia of the door hinges, but I had to remove the frontclip. So I looked through the screw removal threads and found the blow torch idea.

I used it on my parts rig and when I heard crackling I knew they were ready, and they came right out. Then I moved on to my DD and cause I was outside with the druncks behind me I didn't hear the crackling and well I ended up grinding the heads off. Then when I got the doors off I heated the screwand used visegrips and they all came out.

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« Reply #2 on: Thursday, February 09, 2006, 02:37:08 PM »

i was warned not to use the hand impact with hammer

What are the down sides of using a hand impact with a hammer? I really don't want to butcher my door hinge screws if I can help it. I do know when I used one to remove my windshield frame there was alot of rust and one body mount washer on the garage floor when I was done.  8)
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« Reply #3 on: Thursday, February 09, 2006, 03:23:08 PM »

I ended up pushing in the sheet metal on my doors using the hammer impact driver.  What I found worked great is one of the Craftsman bolt out sets.  There is one that will fit if you just tap it on with a hammer and they some right out.

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« Reply #4 on: Thursday, February 09, 2006, 07:00:04 PM »

the little micro butane torch work even better, a lil heat and a hand screwdriver will take them out every time...
there is a thread on this  here in the how too
I have seen the air impact .. figmo has used it
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« Reply #5 on: Thursday, February 09, 2006, 10:59:43 PM »

I use a electric impact with the kit from the hammer impact. works like a charm.
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« Reply #6 on: Friday, February 10, 2006, 02:34:58 AM »

I remember reading the thread that mentions the use of the phillips driver on the impact. I too have one of these bits, and I can honestly say that it has killed more screw heads than it has loosend. :(  Glad that you had good luck with it, but it didn't work for me. I have almost always been able to get them out with the impact driver, which I also own, and I have even used it on the windshield frame, but I was sweating. ;)  One other thing that I have done that seems to work very well is to drill the head off the bolt, and remove whatever it is that you are trying to, and then use vise grips to remove what's left of the bolt.
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« Reply #7 on: Monday, February 13, 2006, 10:54:48 AM »

Personally I have had good luck with preheating using the torch(just a small propane), and then using a large philips head and a pair of vice grips on the screw drive handle.   Works like a charm for me.
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« Reply #8 on: Monday, February 13, 2006, 01:10:58 PM »

Well, not having a torch and being at the end of my last paycheck, I opted to use another route. I went with the small drill hole on the side of the head, punch and hammer. They all came out, but at the sacrifice of the screws. Now, what is the part # for a hinge screw?  8)
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« Reply #9 on: Monday, February 13, 2006, 01:37:33 PM »

better yet just take the screws to the hard ware store and match them up with hex head metrics cheaper
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2006, 01:20:23 AM »

what i ued is pretty simple.  all you need is one of those cheap screw drivers with the 10 different replacement heads, a 1/4" or 3/8" drive with a 1/4" socket, and a hammer.  choose the largest phillps bit insert and hammer it in to the head of the door screw.  then attach the rachet to it and brake it loose.  repeat on the rest of the screws.  i've found this quite usefull on rotors that are held to the hubs with phillps screws.  surely the most in expensive solution to the problem.  good luck.
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« Reply #11 on: Sunday, March 05, 2006, 12:36:31 PM »

I slid off with the screwdriver onto the paint of my fender with the "hammer/screwdriver"method, I burnt my paint with the "blowtorch" method, I made a dent in the bodywork with the "impact"method, even used a saw to make a bigger slot in the head......no luck.

Then I welded an M8 nut on the head of the screw and turned it out with the appropriate wrench, no problem. Even less paintdamage then the blowtorch and hot enough to melt the LocTite.



You can see the burnt paint around the top nut and the scratch the screwdriver made on the bodywork. The black "smoke" around the lower screw with the nut welded on, could be wiped off without leaving a trace ( just needs 2 small welds on either side ).
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« Reply #12 on: Monday, March 06, 2006, 01:14:47 AM »

thats not a bad idea.  a little more time consuming but what ever works to get the job done.
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« Reply #13 on: Monday, March 06, 2006, 01:23:00 AM »

I use a electric impact with the kit from the hammer impact. works like a charm.

 This works better than anything I have tried.
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« Reply #14 on: Monday, March 06, 2006, 04:15:05 PM »

man.... i have used the impact driver for all of the screws i had to remove on both my sammys and my bros... never a problem, never dents, worked great for me  ???
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