The newest project.

[rockrat]

That is precisely what I wanted in my zuk.  I spend 100% of my offroad driving in the So Cal desert and would like to get a lot more up travel to handle the bumps and whoops.  I got a softer ride with the TTYJ kit but I don't think it is going to help a lot with the higher speed driving in the desert.  It seems most of the suspension kits are designed more for rock crawling.  I'll be waiting anxiously to see how you set up works.  Nice looking work by the way.

Well 1st off bump stops are your friend in any good suspension system. Unfortuently I miss calculated for the 2nd time in this build costing me Time. 4.5" of up travel with a good bump stop will be the ticket in this setup. What I was shooting for was to get a mockup that could be changed easily from one rig to another, this we did achieve. At the same time looking for something that was not sitting way up in the sky. If I new this rig was not going to be used for high speed desert stuff I would leave the suspension alone. What we are seeing in competition now is alot of low slung rigs with little to no up travel and a limited down travel. Monster flex is not all what it is rated even though it looks cool, you generaly will sacrifise handeling. The buid has deffinately been a challenge to make it work for more then one function, it has also put Bob and I at each others throat's over different opinions(views) of how it should be and what is proper and not. I do most off all the design work and building while Bob is stuck on a machine making all my ideas from what I craw up. With the limited 8-9 hrs we work in a night, there is only so much that can be comunicated from one room to the next so when the talking stops, its generaly a bad thing. I am sure that more then once in the past wk if I were to have slipped the paramedics would not have been called. LOL I laugh now at the moments we have had of late, and wonder how we just did not kill each other. Anyway it has been a most eye opening exp. for both of us. I as always will apllaude the guy in the garages doing there own versions of lets make a deal with there rigs and getting away with it. Its not always as easy as some my say it is.

[rockrat]

Scott,

I just flipped through this thread build quickly and don't recall what the drivetrain is other than Toy axles. What engine, trans and t-case setup?

IT started as a lightning conversion rig... We have since reworked every mount on the rig. The drive train is as follows. CPI 4.3 vortec v-6, was a 2004r trans but we scrapped the idea after my first miss calc. we then found a good 700r4 and made our own adapter to mate the Toy case. It has Toy axles front and rear. Posi in the rear open front 4:10 gears. Disk brakes all the way around. petroworks gas tank. Toy cv shaft in front non cv rear. operating rear angle is around 31 deg. 18.5" shaft dont recal the front measurment. Every bracket, tab, and tube has been produced by us in house on our CNC equipment. Motor mounts transmount. and complete suspension right down to our own version of the JJ. We went as far as making our own molds and pouring our own urethane.

[samerrant]

Well 1st off bump stops are your friend in any good suspension system. ...snip... 4.5" of up travel with a good bump stop will be the ticket in this setup. .....looking for something that was not sitting way up in the sky. ...

similiar to what im going for when i start my build up. do you mean 4.5" before the bump? (assuming a long travel bump like long poly or airbumps) or 4.5 total up travel including bump compression?
fairly minor detail i know, but it makes a fair difference when you're shooting for keeping the rig as low as possible. i was looking at 3" travel bumps and about 3-4" before bump contact, but im not sure this will be enough to stay off the stops. this would allow for only ~5" lift, with 6-7" total uptravel....fenders cut to allow full stuff with ~33s.
will the new arms youre running on this build clear the frame at full stuff to the stock bumpstops? i may be interested in the near future....the 2link w/panhard should work well clearance wise with my centered dshaft output

thanks

[dbs2071]

Well 1st off bump stops are your friend in any good suspension system.

That's what I thought, but I called Brent last week and was asking him about the up travel of his YJ kit that he installed for me.  I said it had about 2-2-1/2" of up travel before it contacted the built in bump stops on the Doetsch shocks with about another inch of compression on those.  I actually thought there would be more.  I asked him if I should put on some bump stops and he said no.  Just use the ones on the shocks.  he also went on to say that if you were in a flex situation where one side dropped and the other side went up, the axle would actually rotate away from the stops and the bump stop wouldn't hit anyway.  In a straight up and down motion they would make contact.  Does this make sense to you?  Knowing that I have a YJ kit with ML's, would you recommend bump stops.

[rockrat]

Using that style shock yes that makes sence, But if you used a long shock with no bump stop, as one side goes down the other is going to go up and it could contact a predeturmed stop if you put one in. this is in regards to a bump stop not intergrated into the shock.

[rockrat]

Ride height next to a stock zuk




And the test and FAIL

[redzook]

Here is the pic of the pivot for the arm.



im looking at this and still cant figure it out?

isnt that the upper link bolt?
what stops axel wrap?

[1bigtracker]

Here is the pic of the pivot for the arm.



im looking at this and still cant figure it out?

isnt that the upper link bolt?
what stops axel wrap?

i had a hard time with it at first too, i'll collect some qoutes and be right back.

Stu

[1bigtracker]

http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,25638.0.html

and look on page 12 of this thread for my questions to scott about it.  he anwsers very quickly.

Stu

[rockrat]

the mount you are looking at is the pass side, alows the pinion to float as the axle articualtes. The driver side is hard top and bottom so there is no axle wrap.

[redzook]

the mount you are looking at is the pass side, alows the pinion to float as the axle articualtes. The driver side is hard top and bottom so there is no axle wrap.

cool thanks

didnt realise the other side was solid

[rockrat]

A few more pics
 transmission/tcase mount

[1bigtracker]

A few more pics
 transmission/tcase mount

Stu

[isbb]

Im going to venture off and guess that extra big hole cut into the left half of the mount is for the exhaust to run thru correctt?

[southpaw]

Sweet!!!!

You using shackle type bushings for the t-case mounts?