The newest project.

[Cabie]

Rockrat, you have side picture of the panhard upper mount in relation to the shock mount. 

Also what angle is the bend in the shock mount?  Better yet how far is it offset at the bottom of the frame from the top?  Now in theory isn't that placing the shockmount in double shear?  Structurally as strong at the frame front to back as up to down.

How tall is the mount? how far out from the frame is it??

Sorry for all the questions.

[rockrat]

Rockrat, you have side picture of the panhard upper mount in relation to the shock mount. 

Also what angle is the bend in the shock mount?  Better yet how far is it offset at the bottom of the frame from the top?  Now in theory isn't that placing the shockmount in double shear?  Structurally as strong at the frame front to back as up to down.

How tall is the mount? how far out from the frame is it??

Sorry for all the questions.

Not sure at what you are getting at but to answer the questions
From the top of frame to shock eye 7" offset from frame 3.5" angle of bend 35deg aksi it is hard to see in the pic but the shock mounts are reasesed to have 3/8" that is overhanging the top of the frame.

[isbb]

Cabie theres nuttin wrong with double shear mounts..   Its single shear mounts you gotta worry about... I was looking at how tall they are and when the axle decides it wants to move fowards or backwards or start to wrap the shocks will want to wrap them mounts..   but we shall see... Rockrat says it will work it will work..  

i wouldnt imagine the offset being no more than a inch inand a half if i think i know what you mean by offset..

[rockrat]

Cabie theres nuttin wrong with double shear mounts..   Its single shear mounts you gotta worry about... I was looking at how tall they are and when the axle decides it wants to move fowards or backwards or start to wrap the shocks will want to wrap them mounts..   but we shall see... Rockrat says it will work it will work..  

i wouldnt imagine the offset being no more than a inch inand a half if i think i know what you mean by offset..

Should not be any axle wrap, it is linked suspension..

[rockrat]

Ok the shocks are on rear shaft on and it sits on its own. Oh and flex's
pics coming

[rockrat]

Ride height next to a stock zuk




And the test and FAIL

[NC Zuk]

Fail? What failed? Otherwise it is shaping up!

[rockrat]

YA the flex is great and Even but I (FD) up big time with my mock up of the shocks so the tower is not tall enough. No usable up travel and it Will bottom out so guess I will be cutting off my new mounts to make them taller. Only one place to go, and that is throught the fenderwell. Oh well.

[Orionn]

well that stinks...... Looking back now that you said that, the tires dont really stuff like you would think.  that should be an easy fix for you though. 

Looks great though Scott, as always. 

[samerrant]

scott, the arms are long enough that it may not be an issue, but have you not had any issues with excessive anti squat running a setup like that, essentially radius arms rather than a 4 link?
build quality, as expected looks great.

thanks for any info

[Zukisam]

YA the flex is great and Even but I (FD) up big time with my mock up of the shocks so the tower is not tall enough. No usable up travel and it Will bottom out so guess I will be cutting off my new mounts to make them taller. Only one place to go, and that is throught the fenderwell. Oh well.

I din'nt read every reply so I'm guessing 33 inchers. If you increase the up-travel will you be able to use a 35in or...........?  also the work is incredible, Im going to welding school for the Army next month and hope to learn more than just my current arc welding skills

[rockrat]

scott, the arms are long enough that it may not be an issue, but have you not had any issues with excessive anti squat running a setup like that, essentially radius arms rather than a 4 link?
build quality, as expected looks great.

thanks for any info

The truck is being built for more street handling, and be able to say run the baja. Antisquat is the least of the issues. All of which can be easily corrected with a center strap. My fears with only 2" of up travel is that since the shock is also the effective spring with one real good hit bottoming will cause damage to the frame, shock mounts and shocks themselves. The suspension has a usable amount3-4" up and I need to utilize it to get a a great handling rig. This is not a rockcrawler and is not going to be one. Goals 75mph hwy, with no vibes and good road manors, then if I want to fly theough the dessert whoops etc it will handle it.

[rockrat]

I din'nt read every reply so I'm guessing 33 inchers. If you increase the up-travel will you be able to use a 35in or...........?  also the work is incredible, Im going to welding school for the Army next month and hope to learn more than just my current arc welding skills

The tires that are on it now are a toyo 31" that measure around a 30". Yes an easy fix would be to add more nitrogen to the shock and just raise the ride height. But the key to this build is low and effective. I could easily with this kit run 31-35" tire without issues, but as the truck goes up the more unstable it could be at hwy speed.

[dbs2071]

The truck is being built for more street handling, and be able to say run the baja. Antisquat is the least of the issues. All of which can be easily corrected with a center strap. My fears with only 2" of up travel is that since the shock is also the effective spring with one real good hit bottoming will cause damage to the frame, shock mounts and shocks themselves. The suspension has a usable amount3-4" up and I need to utilize it to get a a great handling rig. This is not a rockcrawler and is not going to be one. Goals 75mph hwy, with no vibes and good road manors, then if I want to fly theough the dessert whoops etc it will handle it.

That is precisely what I wanted in my zuk.  I spend 100% of my offroad driving in the So Cal desert and would like to get a lot more up travel to handle the bumps and whoops.  I got a softer ride with the TTYJ kit but I don't think it is going to help a lot with the higher speed driving in the desert.  It seems most of the suspension kits are designed more for rock crawling.  I'll be waiting anxiously to see how you set up works.  Nice looking work by the way.

[terrymac]

Scott,

I just flipped through this thread build quickly and don't recall what the drivetrain is other than Toy axles. What engine, trans and t-case setup?